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Post by Kenzomatic on Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:39 am

I am so tired. I have been negotiating a job all week with idiots. So monday I got a phone call from a company about a contract job doing 3D. Now a friend of mine works at this place and he gave them my name. Anyways they want to know my schedaul so I E-mail them it. Then when I talk to them they have all the wrong days and wrong information (monkeys in action). So they ask me if I can start wednesday, now so far all they have is my schedaul and all I know is it involves 3D. They then want to know how much money I want, for the job I know nothing about. Apperently they know nothing about the job either because when I asked they couldn't come up with a coherient answer. They also want me to fill out an official application, so I tell them I'll just inclide the dollar amount with the application.

Now a few things need to be clarified before I go on. First I know of an ad they have on craigs list stating pay at $40 an hour. Next thing you need to know is that contract jobs are a lot different then other jobs see at a normal job taxes takin out of your pay check are matched by the company. With a contract job the company doesn't pay any taxes and you pick up paying all of it. So if at your job they take out 7% for social security at the contract job you will have to pay 14%. Add that on top of zero benifits and zero vactaion, and then you'll see why contact jobs almost always pay more. So basically minus 25% and that is more like what you are being paid. Also unlike freelance which is usually under the table, contracts jobs like this are always reported to the gov. by the company so you have to pay the tax.

Back to the story, so I call my friend and ask him to ballpark what this company pays. He tells me that as a intern he got $12 an hour and $15 when he became part time. Now he is full time but doesn't disclose that amount. He also say not to worry they'll just tell me and he amied to high too. Which begs the question whats the f***ing point if they already know how much it pays. Why the games. So anyways I put $20 which all things considered is pretty fair.

So I fiil everything out an they are supposed to call me the next. They don't call until after 10:00 PM at night. WTF seriously business is done during business hours and up till 8. Note this is a day job at a day company that is only open from 9-6 why the hell are the calling me a 10 at night. One word inapproperiate. So do to my rigidity against phone calls after 8. I don't answer and just contact them in the morning. Also the message they left was just a typicall we need to talk to you, followed by a second call stating they would like me to start a 10 the next day. Which again why the hell did they wait till 10 at night their mistake not mine.

So I call the lady first thing the next morning, turn out I missed the "have you ever been convicted of a fellony" box and she really needed to know what the answer. Um NO. After that she says they would like to offer me the job at $12 I tell them I thinking at least $15 and that Iwould be willing to negotiate. We agree on $14 but she has to check the number or get aproval or some BS and she will call me back later. This conversations happened at 9 AM. At 10:45 PM she calls to respond. As noted earlier don't call me after 8:00 about business, unless its an emergency. Again need to talk useless message. So wait till the next morning and I give a call. She tells me she can not get a hold of her superior who is in california at a convention and she does not have athority to aprove any thing over $12. But she can hire at that and maybe in a month they will pay me the other if I prove myself. She also notes that that is the price I qualified for. 1st I have 3 years professional expreince and 2 degrees. 2nd I have not been paid under $10 since 2003. FYI $12 on contract is like $8.50 at full time. I make note of the second and tell her I'm not taking a pay cut. I tell her that she can talk to her boss when she gets back if it fine I will start monday. Side note she mention that I wanted $13.50 which was not what we had agreed on.

Final facts

1 - I have next no idea what the job actually is (3d is pretty nebulas) and they won't tell me.
2 - They where offering on craigs list $40 for a person with my qualification for what can only be described as this job.
3 - This is contract not part time or full time
4 - this is not a 3D company but a job training company (you know those crappy sexual harrassement videos thats them)
5 - I will be moving here in a few months
6 - The entire company is run by women (you can call me sexiest all day long I have worked at all women run companies before and nightmare is an understatement)

Anyways I am so tired of dealing with these people. They must be used to dealing with retarded artist who never stick up for themself. And I am hardly asking for a price that could be described as anthing other then a steal, the $20 I requested intially was resonable and $40 they have on craigs list is realistic. Remember this is a contarct job which means on top of all the other stuff it only last until the job is done then nothing which is yet another reason why contract jobs generally pay so much more money per hour.

Well thats my rant. We'll see what happens.

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Re: Stupid job

Post by Luinil on Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:51 am

Wow.... I almost don't want you to have to work with them, but money is money... even if you have to humble yourself to the rule of bad women employers....

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Re: Stupid job

Post by Don Ramón on Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:01 pm

thats way I am affraid of losing my job, I remember applying for one, they wanted me 7 days 14 hours managing a plant for 186 $ a month minus taxes, I said No and asked for more, they laught in my face and just told me somebody else will do the job... NEXT

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Re: Stupid job

Post by Gengibre on Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:51 pm

Yeap, your situation looks like crap, sorry man... but is the only job around for you???
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Re: Stupid job

Post by Kenzomatic on Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:56 pm

Gengibre wrote:Yeap, your situation looks like crap, sorry man... but is the only job around for you???

Its only job at that amount around here that can fill the few months left before I move.

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Re: Stupid job

Post by loro on Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:03 pm

I'm sorry...I must have missed the last memo. When are you moving....and to where?

It's been my experience that people don't want top pay for quality work. They would rather hire a hundred idiots making $3 an hour rather than 3 making $30.
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Re: Stupid job

Post by Kenzomatic on Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:13 pm

I should be moving here sometime in the next few months to Austin Texas, for a number of reason. But the two big ones are 1 - there is a lot of jobs in my feild out there. (http://www.gamedevmap.com/index.php?tool=location&query=Austin) and 2 - The unemployment rate is almost half what it is here.

San Antonio - which is 45 minute south - has a shrinking unemployment rate and apperently a lot of regular job so I might end of there on the short turn but Austin isn't far and that is where a lot af career jobs for me are at.

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Re: Stupid job

Post by loro on Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:11 pm

Cool..didn't know that was in the works. Maybe next time I drive out to Nebraska I'll have to swing by and say hi.
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Re: Stupid job

Post by Mako on Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:26 pm

I like my job!
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Re: Stupid job

Post by zex on Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:27 pm

supermario128 wrote:I like my job!

Spamming till no end?
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Re: Stupid job

Post by Kenzomatic on Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:28 pm

Where do you work?

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Re: Stupid job

Post by Mako on Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:31 pm

At my family's restaurant.
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Re: Stupid job

Post by Luinil on Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:39 am

ahh, so is it a "I MUST say, I like my job"?

Cuz when my boss is around I Must say that too. lol jk Razz

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Post by Mako on Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:27 am

LOL, you're forced to say that! Haha
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