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Post by fkusumot on Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:30 pm

Yeah, she certainly gets more coverage than Joe Biden. But everyone (in the press) knows Joe Biden and there's nothing interesting to report. Biden has been making some great speeches and getting people excited about Obama. The mainstream media doesn't show Biden much and shows Palin every chance they get. After the Couric interview I think the slant of the coverage has turned somewhat against Palin.

The debate tonight should be her defining moment. Besides her speech at the convention (lipstick on a pitbull, lol) this should be her moment. In the end the VP must do no harm so one would expect a pretty tame debate. The McCain camp may think they can get another "convention" like bump if she throws a ton of red to the base so it may be fun to watch.

Truthfully even though I've watched most of them since Dole/Mondale the only two things I can remember is Bentsen's "You're no Jack Kennedy" and Stockdale's horrible performance. One perfect zinger and one absolute train wreck. The rest I completely forget. The Presidential debates I remember and some of them I remember very well.
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Post by loro on Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:57 pm

Frank....you don't remember Bush's Bulge?
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Post by PDF on Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:16 pm

Well Palin surprised me.

McCain isnt completely screwed. He is still hanging on.
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Post by MesoZombie on Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:12 am

i missed it, what happen, anything funny?
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Post by fkusumot on Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:44 am

super_etecoon wrote:Frank....you don't remember Bush's Bulge?
No. Who was he debating?

Palin did just fine at hitting talking points and evading questions. Biden got a chance to show that he is presidential material. Overall Biden won but it didn't change the dynamics of the campaign as far as I can tell.
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Post by MesoZombie on Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:52 am

so images are caring more then words from that debate it seems
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Post by loro on Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:21 am

No major changes to the map today...other than Montana going from strong McCain to weak McCain.

I don't expect to see any poll changes due to any VP Debate bounce.

And as far as Bush's Bulge, Frank....it was in the first debate against Kerry in '04. It appeared he had something very large under his jacket. It even resulted in his Tailor being fired.
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Post by Don Ramón on Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:31 pm

OMFG... SAra Palins VLOG!!! I hope this dont offend anybody, I just find this Funny:



http://www.236.com/video/2008/sarah_palin_vlog_katie_couric_1_9206.php

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Post by fkusumot on Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:26 am

super_etecoon wrote:
And as far as Bush's Bulge, Frank....it was in the first debate against Kerry in '04. It appeared he had something very large under his jacket. It even resulted in his Tailor being fired.

Wasn't that a presidential debate?
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Post by loro on Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:24 am

fkusumot wrote:
super_etecoon wrote:
And as far as Bush's Bulge, Frank....it was in the first debate against Kerry in '04. It appeared he had something very large under his jacket. It even resulted in his Tailor being fired.

Wasn't that a presidential debate?


woops....I think I may have missed the line when you said you remembered all the PRESIDENTIAL debates. So....here's a picture of Bush's Bulge:








No....not that one...this one:





There's more here. http://homepage.mac.com/c.shaw/BushBulges/PhotoAlbum15.html
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Post by loro on Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:32 am

As of October 4th, 2008.



I'm only posting the graph today because it hasn't been updated on this page. There have been no changes to the vote count.

Obama: 338
McCain: 185
Ties: 15

Today's chart continues the trend noticed in the last chart....that the blue is getting bluer. Washington went from weak Obama to strong Obama...and New Hampshire jumped two positions to go from slightly Obama to strong Obama.

The votemaster at electoral vote has this to say today:



McCain Will Take the Gloves Off

The McCain campaign (read: Steve Schmidt) has decided that being a war hero is not good enough, being a POW is not good enough, being a maverick is not good enough, and being a reformer is not good enough, so the mud is about to start flying. The campaign has pulled all its positive ads touting McCain's experience and long service to the country. From now on, the entire focus will be on Barack Obama's associations with convicted Chicago developer Tony Rezko, 1960s radical William Ayers, and Obama's former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright. It is a high-risk gamble, but McCain loves to roll the dice. But this fierce new strategy has two potential downsides. First, while partisan Republicans will love it (as they loved Sarah Palin's convention speech), negative ads don't always work so well with independents, whose votes are now crucial to both sides. Second, there is a very real danger that either Obama, or more likely, Democratic 527s will start throwing mud right back at McCain. A few choice subjects for negative ads are (1) his taking bribes from convicted felon Charles Keating in the 1980s, (2) the fact that he is an old man who has had a very dangerous form of cancer four times, and (3) the way he divorced his crippled first wife to marry a beer heiress worth $100 million. Clearly Schmidt knows all this but apparently he feels he has to shake things up before it is too late. It is going to get real messy.

The 527s on both sides are already in the act, of course. Here is an example of an anti-Obama ad and an example of an anti-McCain ad.
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Just one month to go...but it's going to be one hell of a month.
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Post by fkusumot on Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:38 am

The Manchurian Candidate is about to take the stage. Yep, it's going to get nasty. It was called the Keating FIVE not the Keating FOUR.
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Post by loro on Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:51 am

I won't post the day's chart...but I will say that Colorado went from slightly Obama to slightly McCain.

I'll also present this graph from a website called openleft.com.



As well as a commentary from the votemaster there:

Today is the first time Barack Obama has reached or surpassed the 50-point mark, also. The lead is a record 8.25 points, also. McCain is also at his all-time low at 42 points, too.

As I "argued" yesterday, McCain's campaign has the look of a sinking ship. Many countered with caution. We've seen Obama take leads before and then give them up. And many of us bear the emotional scars of 2000 and 2004 and have been unwilling to get excited too early. But:

1. Gore or Kerry never had a lead like this. And certainly they never had a sustained and sizable lead like this.

2. It's October. The post-convention period is exactly when moves like this by one candidate or the other usually take place. Waffling voters are now choosing sides.
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Post by Kenzomatic on Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:15 am

super_etecoon wrote:I won't post the day's chart...but I will say that Colorado went from slightly Obama to slightly McCain.

I'll also present this graph from a website called openleft.com.

Don't you think a more non partisian poll might have more value then a site thats title is "openleft"

http://www.gallup.com/poll/election2008.aspx

Now the numbers are rather close but I still prefer to get my polls from someone who isn't looking through bear goggles or donkey goggles or elephant goggles.

FYI almost all your history books to this day use the gallup polls.

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Post by PDF on Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:33 pm

I really like USA todays map. You can even look how much the campaign has spent in each state.
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Post by loro on Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:16 pm

Kenzomatic wrote:
super_etecoon wrote:I won't post the day's chart...but I will say that Colorado went from slightly Obama to slightly McCain.

I'll also present this graph from a website called openleft.com.

Don't you think a more non partisian poll might have more value then a site thats title is "openleft"

http://www.gallup.com/poll/election2008.aspx

Now the numbers are rather close but I still prefer to get my polls from someone who isn't looking through bear goggles or donkey goggles or elephant goggles.

FYI almost all your history books to this day use the gallup polls.


erm...I just linked a graph that electoral-vote linked. Just a little food for thought. Sorry about that.
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Post by loro on Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:14 am

As of October 7th, 2008.



Obama: 349

McCain: 174

Tie: 15
Well it looks like the shift to blue is continuuing. Obama regained Colorado....and Florida went to weak Obama, as did Virginia. Nissouri has went from slightly McCain to slightly Obama.
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Post by loro on Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:09 am

No major changes to the map today. In fact the only change was that Minnesota went from strong Obama to weak Obama.
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Post by MesoZombie on Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:30 am

I madea discovery and made a point of telling Ken, but you guys can know as well..

Take a look at biden, then look at vigo from ghostbusters 2….hmmmm




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Post by loro on Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:33 am

Wow...he has aged well.
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Post by MesoZombie on Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:40 am

there are better angles

what did it was durning the debate he would lower his head and i could help but feel that i had seen him somewhere before...then it hit me like the old New York Central "City of Albany"!
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Post by Kenzomatic on Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:40 am

Since coon is gone I though I would post the stuff

Oct 15



Obama 357 McCain 181


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Post by Don Ramón on Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:04 am

So Obama IS going to Win?

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Post by Luinil on Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:15 am

It is possible, but we still have 20 days. That is a long time. Nobody knows what is going to happen yet. Anything is possible.
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Post by Don Ramón on Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:23 am

Who you guys support?

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